In this episode of Imaginary Friends, Andrew and Nigel dive deep into the creative process, exploring the highs and lows of turning ideas into reality. Reflecting on personal milestones, they share stories about resilience, overcoming failure, and finding growth in adversity. From navigating 2020’s challenges to discovering unexpected breakthroughs, this episode celebrates the importance of discipline, community, and maintaining a childlike curiosity in the pursuit of creative endeavors. We hope you enjoy the insights on creativity, collaboration, and the courage to take risks. Be sure to subscribe to Calico Sonder and Imaginary Friends for more stories like this! Links from the conversation can be found below. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/imaginaryfriends.show // https://www.instagram.com/calicosonder TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@imaginaryfriends.show Timestamps: 02:03 - 2020: Hardship and Growth 03:30 - Taking Risks in Creativity 10:00 - Processing Grief Through Creativity 19:00 - The Power of Listening 29:33 - Adversity and Breakthroughs 33:07 - The Second Mountain 40:34 - Why We Work 50:04 - The Cost of a New Life 56:03 - Inspiration vs. Discipline 01:03:16 - The Amateur’s Approach 01:12:28 - Conscious Creativity 01:22:00 - Outro & Final Thoughts